A Look At The GOP From Inside A Matt Gaetz-Marjorie Taylor Greene Rally

May 10, 2021
Originally published on June 13, 2021 12:53 pm

There's a sort of time warp going on at The Villages, the enormous retirement community in Florida.

On streets made up to look like small-town Main Streets, it's maybe an idealized, slickly varnished version of the 1950s — albeit with legions of golf carts.

At a hotel ballroom on Friday night, it was something like 2017.

"I just got to check something; I just want to make sure I'm in the right place. Tell me, who is your president?" Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene yelled to a packed ballroom of mostly maskless supporters.

"Donald Trump!" they yelled in response.

"That's my president, too," she said, to cheers.

Greene, the freshman congresswoman from Georgia, was there with Florida Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz to kick off what they say will be a series of America First rallies.

The Villages isn't in Gaetz's district or even Greene's state. But it is full of their people, which is to say, Trump's people. The three counties that make up The Villages voted for him last year at rates around 60% or more.

The rally came at a time when a battle for control of the party — and for the party's very identity — is coming to a head. House Republicans are set to vote as early as Wednesday on removing Rep. Liz Cheney, the No. 3 Republican in the House, from her leadership role.

"You got to be a party person"

"If Liz Cheney could even find Wyoming on a map and went there, she would find a lot of very angry cowboys who are not happy," Gaetz said during his speech, accusing her of being an establishment figure who doesn't get outside of Washington enough.

"She's sort of for every war: war in Syria — for it," he added, referencing her 2019 disagreement with Trump's decision to remove troops from that country. "War against Trump and his supporters — for it. War against the Republican conference; war against her own voters."

The opposition to Cheney isn't her ideology — she has a deeply conservative voting record. Rather, she voted for Trump's impeachment and has repeatedly repudiated the lie that the 2020 election was rigged or stolen for President Biden.

While many Americans may have no idea who is in congressional leadership, the people who came to see Gaetz and Greene are paying attention, particularly to Cheney.

"Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I cannot stand her," said Ria Amiess after the rally. "Why does she hate Trump? She's supposed to be out of the Republican Party, you know? The Republican Party needs to be united."

Don Perrin put it more succinctly.

"If you're going to be a party person, you got to be a party person. And she went against the party," he said.

But Cheney wasn't the only Republican being targeted. Some of their most fiery attacks were reserved for those fellow Republicans who aren't unfailingly loyal to Trump.

"If Adam Kinzinger wants to be the frontman for the establishment to bring our party back to the days of Mitt Romney and John Kasich ... I'm not going back," Gaetz said, to loud boos from the crowd. "This is Donald Trump's party, and I'm a Donald Trump Republican."

Kinzinger, the Illinois Republican congressman, has emerged as a key critic of Trump alongside Romney, the U.S. senator from Utah, and Kasich, the former Ohio governor who unsuccessfully sought the GOP nomination in 2016.

"Trump is the leader of the Republican Party!" Greene added, to cheers.

Reinventing the party

For Gaetz and Greene, a part of being Trump Republicans is adopting Trump's rhetorical strategies.

Much like Trump, they talked a lot about their perceived enemies. And also like Trump, they gave a sense that being more embattled only makes them more defiant.

In short, opposition — no matter how serious — just gives them more opportunities to put a thumb in someone's eye.

Gaetz, for example, winkingly referenced an array of serious allegations against him, including sex with a teenage girl, as a way of slamming the media.

"I already know how CNN is going to report it: 'Matt Gaetz has wild party surrounded by beautiful women in The Villages,' so just get ready for it," he said.

Greene, meanwhile, bragged about being stripped of her committee assignments after social media activity that promoted violence, racism and false conspiracy theories. She wore that punishment as a badge of honor, talking about how she decided to slow down House floor activities.

"If you want to give me some time on my hands, then you better believe I'm going to figure out smart ways to use it," she said.

Even the name of the rally gets at their defiance in the face of scandal. "America First" was floated as an official caucus in the House. After leaked language about launching that caucus invoked white nationalism, many Republicans distanced themselves from it, and Greene decided not to launch it.

People at an America First rally in The Villages are likely to be among the most hardcore Trump supporters in an already Republican area.

But that doesn't necessarily make them fringe. Polls have shown that a majority of Republicans, for example, believe the lie that the election was stolen or rigged.

One such Republican is Linda Murphy Griffaw, who came to the rally in a red dress with "Make America Great Again" emblazoned across the bodice. She voted for neither Barack Obama nor John McCain in 2008, nor did she vote for Obama or Romney in 2012. But Trump fired her up.

"I never vote unless I truly believe in the party I'm voting for," she said. "And I truly believe that he wanted the best for us."

Villages resident Linda Murphy Griffaw poses before the Gaetz-Greene rally on Friday.
Danielle Kurtzleben / NPR

If there are enough voters like Murphy Griffaw, it lends weight to South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham's argument that the Republican Party can't "move forward" without Trump.

But then the question is what comes of the Cheneys and Romneys. On NBC's Meet the Press, Louisiana Sen. Bill Cassidy said Sunday the party can win only if all of those Republicans come together.

"For us to win in 2022 and 2024, we need everybody," he said. "We need those who feel as Liz. We need those who feel as Lindsey."

It's not clear, however what coexistence might look in the long term between Republicans like Cheney, who reject Trump, and Republicans who have built their identities as Republicans around Trump.

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RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

Liz Cheney is the No. 3 Republican in the House of Representatives. She is in danger of losing that position because she has told the truth about the 2020 election. Many lawmakers in the GOP support the lie that the election results were fraudulent. Cheney has refused to do that. And a vote in the House this week may determine her political future. While the vote will happen here in Washington, D.C., we're going to head this morning to Florida with some important context from NPR's Danielle Kurtzleben. Good morning, Danielle.

DANIELLE KURTZLEBEN, BYLINE: Hello.

MARTIN: All right. So you spent some time in the part of Florida that is really the heart of Trump country. And that matters to Liz Cheney's situation. Explain what's going on.

KURTZLEBEN: Right. So I came down here on Friday for a rally that was in The Villages, that huge retirement community in central Florida. It was a rally put on by Georgia's Marjorie Taylor Greene and Florida's Matt Gaetz. Now, The Villages is not in Matt Gaetz's district. It's not even in Marjorie Taylor Greene's state.

MARTIN: Right.

KURTZLEBEN: But it is full of their people because it's full of Trump's people. The counties around The Villages voted for Trump last year at rates of around 60% or more. And this rally - they called it the America First rally. Now, the name of that gets at these two's defiance in the face of scandal. America First was floated as an unofficial caucus in the House earlier this year. Leaked language about launching that caucus invoked white nationalism. Other Republicans distanced themselves from it. The caucus was not launched. And they said that this America First rally is going to be the first part of a national tour.

MARTIN: All right. So let's take a listen to what you found.

KURTZLEBEN: There's a sort of time warp going on at The Villages. On a street made up to look like a small-town Main Street, it's maybe an idealized, slickly varnished version of the 1950s, albeit with a lot of golf carts. Next to a gazebo, where a band was warming up on Friday afternoon, it was the Reagan era.

UNIDENTIFIED SINGER: (Singing) Oh, here she comes. Watch out, boy. She'll chew you up.

KURTZLEBEN: At a hotel ballroom on Friday night, it was something like 2017.

MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE: All right. I just got to check something. I just want to make sure I'm in the right place.

(CHEERING)

GREENE: Tell me, who is your president?

UNIDENTIFIED CROWD: Donald Trump.

GREENE: That's my president, too. OK.

KURTZLEBEN: And a lot like Trump, Gaetz and Greene talked a lot about their perceived enemies. And like Trump, they gave a sense that being more embattled only makes them more defiant. In short, opposition, no matter how serious, just gives them more opportunities to put a thumb in someone's eye. Matt Gaetz, for example, winkingly reference to an array of serious allegations against him, including sex with an underage girl, as a way of slamming the media.

MATT GAETZ: And I already know how CNN's going to report it. Matt Gaetz has wild parties surrounded by beautiful women in The Villages. So just get ready for it.

(CHEERING)

KURTZLEBEN: Greene, meanwhile, bragged about being stripped of her committee assignments after social media activity that promoted violence, racism and false conspiracy theories. Greene wore that punishment as a badge of honor, talking about how she decided to slow down House floor activities.

GREENE: If you want to give me some time on my hands, then you better believe I'm going to figure out smart ways to use it.

(CHEERING)

KURTZLEBEN: But some of the most fiery attacks were reserved for those fellow Republicans who aren't unfailingly loyal to Trump.

GAETZ: If Adam Kinzinger wants to be the front man for the establishment to bring our party back to the days of Mitt Romney and John Kasich...

(BOOING)

GAETZ: ...And - you know what? I'm not going back. This is Donald Trump's party. And I'm a Donald Trump Republican.

GREENE: Yeah.

(CHEERING)

GREENE: Topping the list of Republicans non grata was Wyoming's Liz Cheney, the No. 3 House Republican.

GAETZ: If Liz Cheney could even find Wyoming on a map and went there, she would find a lot of very angry cowboys who are not happy.

KURTZLEBEN: Many Americans may have no idea who is in congressional leadership, but the people here are paying attention, like Ria Amiess.

They mentioned Liz Cheney a lot in there.

RIA AMIESS: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I cannot stand her.

KURTZLEBEN: Why?

AMIESS: You know, why she hates Trump? Why she - she supposed to be out of Republican Party. Republican Party need to be united.

KURTZLEBEN: Don Perrin put it more succinctly.

DON PERRIN: If you're going to be a party person, you got to be a party person. And she went against the party.

KURTZLEBEN: People at an America First rally in The Villages are likely to be among the most hardcore Trump supporters in an already Republican area. But that doesn't necessarily make them fringe. Polls have shown that a majority of Republicans, for example, believe the lie that the election was stolen or rigged. One is Linda Murphy Griffaw, who came to the rally in a red dress with Make America Great Again emblazoned across the bodice. She voted for neither Obama nor McCain in 2008, nor did she vote for Obama or Romney in 2012. But Trump fired her up.

LINDA MURPHY GRIFFAW: I never vote unless I truly believe in the party I'm voting for. And I truly believe that he wanted the best for us.

KURTZLEBEN: And Republicans in the House are voting this week about potentially stripping Liz Cheney of her leadership status in the House. That could happen as early as Wednesday.

MARTIN: All right. NPR's Danielle Kurtzleben, thank you.

KURTZLEBEN: Thank you. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.